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From: matth@bellatlantic.net (Matthew Hulett)
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Subject: Re: downloading to yaroze
Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 03:21:57 GMT
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>Sounds Good, how long have you been a member?

   Since the beginning, almost... May 15 '97, or thereabouts. I
started from scratch, literally, I could not even use my computer when
I pulled it out of the box.  DOS was one of the few things I had
distant memories of from my IBM PC days back in the late 70's... ah,
Zork was a kid's dream world...

>Okay this need some more explaining...  What do you mean set up the
>setting the path from dos? And should I be running djsetup beforehand.

   Hmmm..., o.k.. Lets say you want to look at the contents of a
folder in Windows. You could use file manager, which I never do, or
you could just double-click your way through your files to open the
file.
   Setting your path in DOS is akin to this. You start out with:

[WINDOWS] C:\Windows>

   At this point, your path is set to the Windows folder, or
directory. If you type in at the prompt:

[WINDOWS] C:\Windows>cd\psx      

and hit enter... your path will change to:

[WINDOWS] C:\PSX>

Now you are in the psx folder, having set your path, and you can now
type in djsetup and set the environment...

[WINDOWS] C:\PSX>djsetup

and hit enter. The path information will just repeat itself. You will
see this again...

[WINDOWS] C:\PSX>

Now, you need to set your path to the folder containing the nifty ball
demo, so type at the prompt...

[WINDOWS] C:\PSX>cd\psx\sample\check

and hit enter (isn't this fun?). Now you will see this...

[WINDOWS] C:\PSX\SAMPLE\CHECK>

Type make at the prompt...

[WINDOWS] C:\PSX\SAMPLE\CHECK>make

and hit enter. You should see two lines worth of compiler and linker
information that is understood by the engineers in the program, but
not by me. As long as you don't see anything saying 'make failed', or
any other fail messages, you should be o.k.. Leave the DOS window open
with that path.
   Now, turn on your yaroze and wait for the brick screen to appear.
Now, type siocons at the prompt...


[WINDOWS] C:\PSX\SAMPLE\CHECK>siocons

and hit enter. We are basically doing pg.26 in the little red book, so
you can look there for a sample of the output you will see.
You should see a '>>' thingy after the console monitor information.
Hit enter a few times, if you see double arrows keep appearing, you
are connected properly. Hit the F3 key, and hit enter. And the demo
will begin downloading, and will execute automatically.
   If there are problems at any step along the way, reading and
working through pgs. 17-25 in the Start-Up Guide should solve them.

>Basically I am a DOS dunce, I've been around MACS and Windows way too
>long, If anyone out there has tried Codewarrior, does it alleviate the
>necessity to work in DOS or what?

   Yep, it does allow you to avoid DOS. CodeWarrior has a program
called PsComUtil. But, programs built with CW have a different
executable from those built with DJGPP. 90% of stuff in the program is
built with DJGPP, so you are going to have to get used to siocons if
you wish to use 90% of the available games and demos. There is
actually a Windows replacement for siocons too, but it is on the
european server, and you may not be able to get in there yet. Here's
the address where it is located...

http://www.netyaroze-europe.com/~deruiter/

In all reality, I just have to say, working in DOS is one or two
nights of learning some basics. You'll be relishing your DOS
adventures when you get into programming the yaroze. I actually have
never tried to download .SIO  files with siocons, I just use the
appropriate program when called for. In the final analysis, in my
humble opinion, both CW and DJGPP both have their own pecularities
and specifics, and both require equal effort to learn. 
   And by the way, is your name Will or Gerard?

-Matt