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From: macpaul@ndirect.co.uk (Paul Harvey)
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Subject: Re: Anyone running Virtual PC/Softwindows on a G3 (266 or 300)?
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 10:39:55 +0000
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DEnnis Brinkhuis <macsuppor@a1.nl> wrote:

> Phil Gooch <philg@easynet.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > Hi all
> 
> Hi my friend,
> 
> > I'm thinking of upgrading to a new Mac. Actually I'm tempted to get a PC
> > as I really want to be able to run all the Yaroze tools. Currently I'm
> > running Softwindows 95 on my old 6100 - barely usable, but it works.
> 
> 6100, a classic but trustable. I used to have one of those, only I
> swapped it for the 8500av I still own. 
> 
> > If either VPC or Softwindows run at a reasonable speed on a G3 I'll go
> > for one of those, otherwise I will have to sell out... I'll still keep
> > my old Mac but try and get a cheapo PC for the Yaroze stuff.
> 
> At the course I met Paul Harvey (~macpaul). He uses one of the best G3
> powerbooks around. He had it running with Virtual PC 2 and that worked
> at least as good as the Pentium II's on the Middlesex course. I was
> amazed. And as far as I know, RealPC should beat VirtualPC2 in speed. So
> don't buy a PC if you can have them both. And to be clear, VPC works
> fine on my PB1400 166 (604e) and on my PPC 8500av 120 (604).
> 
> > Let's not start a Mac vs PC flame war, but helpful suggestions
> > appreciated.
> 
> Good Idea, let's not. Only you better put this question in the
> mac-newsgroup next time. And check out Paul's memberpage, he is
> dedicating it to "Mac - Yaroze" development. With questions you can also
> turn to Ira Rainey (~shadow) who was the first mac-yaroze expert I met.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
You don't need the top-of-the-range G3 to get usable PC emulation (but
it helps!!). I assume you want to primarily code Yaroze using
CodeWarrior in the Mac environment (or why else would you get a Mac
right?)

If this is the case, any G3 will be more than adequate. (Probably not
the iMac at the moment because it doesn't have the serial port you need.
If you're willing to wait a little while, someone will produce a
USB->serial adaptor that should be ok, then the iMac will be the perfect
Mac for coding.

If you're too keen to buy one, you can use any existing PC monitor, and
just get a G3 CPU/keyboard/mouse combo.

I use a mac 233Mhz 604e processor at home for coding the Yaroze, and
have to go into Virtual PC occasionaly, just to sort out my TIMs in
TimTool. It's fast enough for that occasional visit. Any G3 would be far
better than this.

Any more questions, please ask..

My site should be up by the end of this weekend. It's a little bare
right now, but I have plans for the future...!

Paul