Path: chuka.playstation.co.uk!news From: "Mark Wilson" Newsgroups: scee.yaroze.beginners,scee.yaroze.freetalk.english Subject: Re: What's the point of CodeWarrior ?? Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 19:25:12 +0100 Organization: PlayStation Net Yaroze (SCEE) Lines: 61 Message-ID: <6p0260$46010@chuka.playstation.co.uk> References: <35AFC525.5495@virgin.net> <6opmgn$ofp17@chuka.playstation.co.uk> <35B38262.186E232A@hinge.mistral.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: userl842.uk.uudial.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0518.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0518.4 Xref: chuka.playstation.co.uk scee.yaroze.beginners:441 scee.yaroze.freetalk.english:1483 >Mark Wilson wrote: > >> >What a pile of cack! > Um, don't think I did say that actually... >The yaroze version editor is buggy, yes. They sorted the IDE out on thePro >version about 6monthes ago, no more dodgy characters and stuff. >Perhaps if enough people mail them they'll do an IDE update for the >yaroze compiler that provides the same fixes. > Or if enough people moan here... >I suggest you check out what the ProDev version (which isn't that far >ahead of the Yaroze one) costs. The differance is measured in thousands. >And Metrowerks aren't overcharging for it in context. Several companys >charge much more than that: > I agree that CW is a bargain at £90. >eg. Microtec 68000 dev tools for embedded systems: >£1000 for the C compiler + assembler >£1000 for the C++ compiler (requires the C/assembler package) >£1500 for the debugger (and you have to port the monitor program yourself >which is a bugger even for experienced 68K experts) > And the Microtec compiler is a bit smelly, GNU is better. > >> The only reason I see for using CodeWarrior is the debugger, which beats the >> GNU one hands down. The rest of the system ranges between merely acceptable >> and downright incompetent. > >The debugger is a big step beyond the GNU one. The rest of the systemis actually >rather good. The compiler itself is very fast compared to GNU, >and the code browsing stuff is excellent (better in many respects than the >Microsoft IDE). > > Ah, now this *is* a reply to something I said. I was probably a bit cruel... should have said "good to buggy" >(fed up of whinges on this subject - why not whinge at the lack of a fileserver >that works via serial for GNU instead?) OK... Why oh why isn't there a GNU fileserver? I'm fed up of these CW arguments as well, as I can never decide which side I'm on ;-) Mark