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From: richard.cutting@virgin.net (Richard Cutting)
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Subject: Re: Plagiarism...
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:58:26 GMT
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On 20 Jul 1998 15:49:55 GMT, "Craig Graham"
<c_graham@hinge.mistral.co.uk> wrote:

>
>
>Nick Ferguson <nickf@saqnet.co.uk> wrote in article
><35B35498.6FCD@saqnet.co.uk>...
>> Hiya all,
>> 
>>    I suppose most of you will have checked out the 'Plagiarism' bit in
>> the members homepages section of the WWW site (if not, do so now). Now,
>> I don't have anything to do with it - aside from the fact the tutorial
>> will prove v. handy for my GDUK entry :-) - but I do have one opinion
>> which I think is a fair one...
>
>Also, I would point out that any code released on the Yaroze is released in
>the knowledge
>that it will be used & shared & modified endlessly by the other members.
>Most code is based
>on the work of someone else - either cut pasted or included as a whole
>file. I know of at least
>one demo on the US site that includes the RsdAnim library. I don't know if
>my name was mentioned
>- I don't care. This is a hobby, and to be honest an SCEE tech support
>geezer should know better.
>
>Does George honestly think that Colin Hughes (SCEE's Mr Optimisation) get's
>creditted
>in every comercial game he's helped out? Does Colin care? (he may wish to
>comment on this)
>And this isn't in the same league. Do comercial games give credit to the
>reams SCEA/SCEI/SCEE sample
>code that they can rip off and use directly? I doubt it very much....
>
>> Nick F
>
>Summary: If credit is due, you can give it. If you've cribbed a little bit
>of code
>from somewhere, well that's just the way it goes. Personally, I don't
>care...but that's
>just me.
>
>Craig.
>

Just to stick in my tuppence worth. It seems to me that a large amount
of the code that we write on the Yaroze will be pretty much identical
no matter who writes it.  A large amount will be in no way considered
original, initialising GsSPRITES and GsBG's and the like. I mean it's
easier to cut and paste a bit of code from someone elses program to do
this than type it all out yourself.

I agree that if you use somebody elses library in it's entirety then
you should acknowledge that person. Or if you blatently nick a cool
visual effect or something that someones programmed without crediting
them ( i.e. something original ) then it would be wrong.  But for
something this trivial there is a danger of making people paranoid and
stop posting their code which surely is the whole point of this
project anyway.  Unless I had looked at some of the code that I have,
I would never have got as far as I have today !

Richard.
http://www.netyaroze-europe.com/~rcutting