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From: Craig Graham <c_graham@hinge.mistral.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: Slander, and Craig's p*ssed about it.....
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 20:36:18 +0000
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Pete wrote:

> The reason for my hostility was that I didn't expect someone to say they'd
> reverse engineer my code, nor display a listing of my own library in a
> newsgroup message! I'm sorry for the 'lamer' remark, I put it down in the
> heat of the moment after seeing my library opened up for all to see..

Anyone can do that, the tool was part of the GNU suite on the Yaroze disc:

    nm -s libcyc.a

....and that's what the nm tool is there for.

> Craig, I viewed your immediate expectation of my source code with
> suspicion, I presumed you wanted it to code serial file server support for
> your own ARS program. If all you wanted was the protocols, you could have
> asked for that alone.

What would it have mattered if I had added support to ARS? Mauriceadded ARS
support to Yaroze Master. It doesn't matter at all - it's a tool
not the end in itself.
In fact, as I said in my original post, Cyclone has a bug openning the serial
ports after Code Warrior has run, so I would probably have fixed the bug,
done a compatibility header / kernal vector patcher and left it at that. Do it

yourself now (I assume you're catching all the GPU timeout/system
messages,etc already - if not feel free to steal it from the ARSLIB
source release).

> I'm well aware of how much you've contributed here, the help you've given
> and your generosity with your own source code. But if it's my wish to get

Then what were/are you thinking?

> hold of the source to my own program, it's really up to me. Cyclone is
> hardly finished, it's the first utility of any sort I've written, and I'm
> surprised it works. If I'm being overly protective of my own code then I
> hope I can be forgiven for that.

No, never.....
"Never forgive, Never forget, Never for fun" - Torquemada (2000AD)

> Sorry for the offence caused, I was offended myself at the time

I hope you were more offended by the "Slander" post ;)

> Pete.

Craig.