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From: "Steve Dunn" <stevedunn@dial.pipex.com>
Newsgroups: scee.yaroze.freetalk.english
Subject: Re: Net Yaroze Special Offer
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:46:01 -0000
Organization: PlayStation Net Yaroze (SCEE)
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Oh...
    Stop moaning about how good it is ?! :)

Steve,
The beautiful beer bellied biker

Craig Graham wrote in message
<01bd3df7$45b8d740$7fd449c2@Angela1.intelligent-group.com>...
>
>
>(don't mail and hassle me for this viewpoint, I've already been strung up
>for it myself once already)
>
>There is far to much griping about the standard of the tools, bugs in the
>compilers, it's all to slow,
>I've got my underpants on my head (and it's Sony's fault). Honestly, folk's
>gotta sort it out.
>
>I'm not pointing a finger (and I'm fairly sure mr frosty is not the man to
>point a finger at) but everyone
>has over-reacted to what is a quite reasonable post. I use the same tools
>as everyone else and have
>been amazed by how nice they are compared to most other remote hosted
>embedded systems
>development systems (all costing a LOT more).
>
>Some examples of not as good systems are:
> OpenTV - £4000+ a seat, same GNU compiler set, PC version is rubbish
> and doesn't work properly so you need a Sun to do it. Debugger is GDB.
> Microtec Compiler / Debugger for 68K embedded systems.
> £2000+ for the compiler, £1500(ish) for the debugger. The compiler is a
>command line
> (like GNU), debugger is an old and dodgy Win3.1 app with loads of bugs and
>a steep
> learning curve to install it. Codewarrior Yaroze kills it dead.
>
>As I've said before, comparing Yaroze to a mass market PC dev platform like
>VC++ is
>daft - it's a different class of product and in an area where costs are
>usually a LOT higher.
>
>The Yaroze is MUCH better than you would expect for a specialized embedded
>development
>system. If the professional system was like this, then I for one would not
>complain as loud as
>some people here are. At this price, it's a bargain.....
>
>Now hang me out to dry, and see how much I care......
>
>Craig.
>(Speaking freely)
>
>