Path: chuka.playstation.co.uk!trsoft.demon.co.uk!ARoss From: Anthony Ross Newsgroups: scee.yaroze.freetalk.english,scee.yaroze.mydemos Subject: Re: URGENT! OPM Games Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:52:39 +0100 Organization: I Lines: 50 Message-ID: <9mYZkDA33Dn3EwJX@trsoft.demon.co.uk> References: <7n7n4f$6tn6@chuka.playstation.co.uk> <7ndks5$i4m7@chuka.playstation.co.uk> <7nesq6$i4m14@chuka.playstation.co.uk> <932927650.199670712@news.playstation.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: trsoft.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike (32) Version 4.01 Xref: chuka.playstation.co.uk scee.yaroze.freetalk.english:4384 scee.yaroze.mydemos:476 In article <932927650.199670712@news.playstation.co.uk>, Craig Graham writes >It's a fact of life that the tools in the games industry are one of: >1) Expensive >2) Not up to the job >or... >3) Written yourself. All the more point for someone to sort out decent tools then >As a (ex) professional PSX programmer, I can honestly say that the >professional tools weren't that much better than the yaroze ones >(the specific case of the PA devkit excepted). > I understand but the pro's have full-time on their side (we need the quick stuff) >Among the better tools that folks have written to help are: >By me: >RsdANIM 3D animator (grin) >ARS File Server >ARS2K (linux hosted fileserver with improved comms protocol) >By Maurice Sibrandi: >Yaroze Master (nice IDE, with built in ARS protocol server) >By Steve Dunn: >NiceARS (ARS server for NT) >By Other People: >Several map editors, inculding a lovely one by Mobius Codeworks >Auto-file layout tools to aviod recalculating the address of stuff in >memory. >A linux or BSD Unix hosted development environment >A GNU debugger for Action Replay use. >Lots of other stuff......you just gotta ask..... Thanks for the list (would I be right in saying that I need the Pro Action Replay and PC Comms Link for some of these) We need links to the pages containing these from the main tools section. >>I feel that you are more interested in slating my efforts which will >>probably result in the completion date slipping even further (I am >>putting quite enough pressure on myself without you adding to it) > >Show us a few screenshots, maybe a bit of code.... I promise that I'll get something up soon. >The only thing that I think would be at all constuctive for Sony >to do now is release the full monty library set (it does exist in a form >that will work with GNU linker, as it's the same as the CodeWarrior >releases). It cann't hurt - any hacker's who want it have it already, >and you can build some pretty cool yaroze stuff with it. I can't see it happening Craig but thanks for the input. ------------------------------------ Anthony Ross