Path: chuka.playstation.co.uk!debri From: debri@dds.nl (DEnnis Brinkhuis) Newsgroups: scee.yaroze.freetalk.english,scee.yaroze.mydemos Subject: Re: URGENT! OPM Games Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:15:35 +0200 Organization: DEbri Lines: 144 Message-ID: <1dwhays.sg7rb4fc9c0lN@a1-88-104.a1.nl> References: <7n7n4f$6tn6@chuka.playstation.co.uk> <7ndks5$i4m7@chuka.playstation.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: a1-88-104.a1.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: MacSOUP 2.3 (unregistered) Xref: chuka.playstation.co.uk scee.yaroze.freetalk.english:4445 scee.yaroze.mydemos:496 Anthony Ross wrote: > >The incentives are: fun, learning, and the fact that the NY project is a > >proving ground for new talent, and therefore a possible way into the > >industry. It is also very satisfying to get a game published on the OPM > >cover disc, not to mention the recognition received. And, your arrogance > >bemuses me. You really think that your ideas are too good to share without > You are quite naive if you think that my attitude is pure arrogance and > that nobody is ripping anybody off in the world (where intellectual > property is concerned). I actually wouldn't mind having my ideas copied > (imitation being a form of flattery) if I had already been rewarded for > my efforts. Welcome in the world where we all rip each other off!!! Open your eyes!!! We all rip eachother off and we all are greedy! Understand that the developers of a product (say games) won't get half the share of the people that sell the stuff. Iff you really think that your idea's are OpsyTopsy, present them at the ECTS. I'm a freak as that as well! I think my idea's are great and I try to show what I'm worth. Till here I did not gain a lot, but at least I'm trying. > >someone ripping them off and making a killing from them? Well, in that case > >I suggest you start developing your ideas on the PC, then try and find a > >publisher. Or, try and get a job in the industry - but then, you need to > Why can't we just find a publisher now? Again because of a restrictive > measure! > >prove yourself first to do that. > I gave up needing to prove myself years ago. (after getting my honours > degree in physics and masters in opto-electronics and optical > information processing) > So I'm not some snot-nosed kid who just wants to complain. I am a > reasonably well-educated 31 year old who wants to see a bit more effort > from SONY (it's called after sales care in most countries) The fact that you are on these newsgroups is already a service from Sony, And the fact that George Bain is replying, is also service from sony!!! > >It's what game designers/programmers (i.e. you) do - solve the problems. If > I love solving the problems (I hate doing graphics and sounds) > >you want it all done for you, then that already exists - they're called > >commercial games and I believe you can pick them up for £20-50 at your local > >games retailer. > smart-ass WELCOME IN THE WORLD OF NET YAROZE!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA, and you didn't even meet me yet! > >We do it in our spare time bacause WE WANT TO. We do what we want, when we > Why do we fart around on the Yaroze...because we want to....because we > want to...........(sounds like a song to me) Who is the smart ass around here? Why don't you find yourself another Hobby, like pealing potatoes or something... > >If your talents don't live up to your own expectations then that's your > >problem. > This is an obvious baiting but I have to respond. > This has nothing to do with my talents not matching my own expectations. > It is to do with having a professional attitude to anything which you > are prepared to attach your name to. Euhm... Professional? we are here working on homedevelopment and amateuristic stuff.. You can be professional, but don't expect to much. > >What like GDUK? > I checked the site a few times this year and it seemed to only have info > about last year. Is it running this year? A lot of NY-members set up their own competitions as well, you can will some nice games sometimes, but no money.. Again, fun is the magic word, not money. > >> Or did they only start the Yaroze program to generate new > >> game ideas on the cheap! > > >Yeah, let's face it, the NY scene is really bulging with great, new, fresh > >ideas. People with great ideas are two a penny. People who can put great > >ideas to effect are those in demand. > How do you know what people are doing at the moment? > Not everyone has the time to write into the groups (or wants to talk > about some project which they couldn't put a release date on). Tell me one idea that has been "stolen" over the past years? And I mean stolen from the NY-members, not by the NY-members?? > >> Believe it or not I am actually producing a game for Yaroze but I am not > >> sure how long it will take. If I had all the graphics and sounds done I > >> could finish the code in a couple of weeks. However I have no idea when > >> I will be finished because the graphics and sound are such a grey area > >> (because they are down to your own personal standards and are limited by > >> your tools and artistic ability) > >> > >> > >> My game is a variation on Puzzle Bobble (Bust a Move2,3 etc) > >> > >> > > > >Ah, now who's stealing who's ideas exactly? > > Every first person shooter hails back to Wolfenstein 3D or whatever came > before it. What I said above was the closest example to what I'm doing. > I could have just said puzzle game. I must say that I agree that Wolfenstein was the first as far as I kno. A lot of people think it was Doom.. > Anyway I wouldn't do a straight clone since nobody would want it. And I > wouldn't release any game that couldn't hold my own attention for at > least 5 minutes. Maybe thats why we haven't seen anything of you yet. > >Oh, I get it! This is a wind up isn't it? Had me fooled for a while there. > You need to deal with your rage mucker! Get help soon! Help is on the way mate.... cockadoodledoo.... > In your reply you showed absolutely no respect for someone who you don't > even know and took a SUPERIOR tone at every possible opportunity. Sorry to interrub.. But Alex is a respected member as far as I know and most of us just apreciate a fair and honest reply, even when it's negative.. And what do you mean with possible oppertunity?!?!? > A REAL COMMUNITY SPIRIT Yeah, you should see the spirit at the ECTS last year.. Cheers mate, DEnnis..