Path: chuka.playstation.co.uk!news From: "Graeme Evans" Newsgroups: scee.yaroze.freetalk.english Subject: Re: Visual Studio/C++ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 22:08:11 +0100 Organization: PlayStation Net Yaroze (SCEE) Lines: 26 Message-ID: <7s8rtf$76c2@chuka.playstation.co.uk> References: <37e7cfcd.18742521@www.netyaroze-europe.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem-88.antimony.dialup.pol.co.uk X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Nicko I'm pretty sure there is a visual studio student package you can get at 'student rates' (i.e. still dead expensive). If i remember you get all the visual tools professional edition for about 60 notes. Had a look in Thins lately? If you werent a student, the 'learning edition' of VC++ would weigh in at a hefty £70 out of pc world. And an upgrade from any version professional to 6 professional will set you back a mean £250 towards bill's retirement fund. I dont think microsoft give stuff away on magazines but there was a microsoft book once at about £30 that had Visual C++ V1.0 (eek!) full version on a CD at the back. Needless to say, stay well away from this retro pile of poo unless you really like windows 3.1. It only does 16-bit apps. I think the learning edition of VC4 has everything except optimisation, static libraries and a debug context stack display (the latter is a really annoying omission!). But it does act as the best yaroze dev environment too, with a great source browser and context sensitive yaroze help. Never used delphi, vb or java so cant comment. yer pal graeme