Path: chuka.playstation.co.uk!news From: Al Newsgroups: scee.yaroze.freetalk.english Subject: Re: Visual Studio/C++ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 11:10:28 +0100 Organization: PlayStation Net Yaroze (SCEE) Lines: 49 Message-ID: <37E8AB14.D9C00813@breathemail.net> References: <37e7cfcd.18742521@www.netyaroze-europe.com> Reply-To: admars32@bigfoot.com NNTP-Posting-Host: modem-213-170.vip.uk.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,ja Hi, I would like to say that for by BSc Com Sci project I used Visual C++ using the MFC (Microsoft Foundation Classes) etc. I think the first line of my conclusion in my project report was "I should have used GNU C on a Sun Spark in an x-term. " (Unix) The MFC stuff is all bollocks! It looks like it has nice functions to save you time and do nice things but it's convoluted crap! Ever seen the helllo world code with it? It's stupidly big. I think the IDE+debugger is nice (better than CodeWarrio IMO). I use it for OpenGL dev at the mo, which luckily uses no Microsoft stuff :) Al http://www.netyaroze-europe.com/~admars Nick Ferguson wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've been learning C++ in my spare time recently, and I am looking for > a freebie version of Microsoft Visual C++ such as might have graced > the cover of a magazine of similar. I could probably get the full > version of Visual C++ 6 for about 70 quid as a student, but an upgrade > from 4 or 5 might be cheaper... I'd also like it for fooling with the > MathEngine SDK, which I got proper documentation for and looks quite > simple to use. Yay! I plan on looking into Visual Basic and J++ too, > so I might be better off getting the Visual Studio package. Hmm... any > ideas on how to do this cheaply and legally? > > Cheers, > > Nick F > -------- > www.loonygames.com > www.saqnet.co.uk/users/nickf > www.netyaroze-europe.com/~rookie1 > > "Game over, man. Game over!" -- http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/3657/ music 'n' computers 'n' piercing 'n' stuff