Path: chuka.playstation.co.uk!scea!greg_labrec@interactive.sony.com From: "Michael Hough" Newsgroups: scee.yaroze.freetalk.english Subject: Re: Code W****r Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 20:16:57 -0800 Organization: SCEA News Server Lines: 36 Message-ID: <6ei8uf$jdt3@scea> References: <3509BEF1.27D0@kprob.demon.co.uk> <01bd4f38$cc655dc0$79d449c2@Angela1.intelligent-group.com> <350C31A1.54F2@manc.u-net.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: delirium.Stanford.EDU X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 >I'm sure it's a good developing environment IN THEORY but I don't have >time/money to be a paying beta tester. I'll buy it back happily when >people start praising it. I bought it in the first place because >it looked good on paper, and well worth the £90 special price. >Seriously, who gave it what award though? I honestly would like to >know. In defense of codewarrior: all the computers at school here are Macs, and have been for quite some time; it's changing, but slowly. As such, we use codewarrior, on Macs, for most of our intro programming classes. And: it's awesome. Their gui class libraries are more intuitive and pleasant than MFC, and their IDE has a lot of things which, once you know them, make it easier to get around. Here's a handout from the cs108 class here. A warning: it's for the mac a version or two ago; on the pc, you'll have to find out the keys yourself, or (what I've done) go into CW prefs and switch them to mac-like. http://www-cse.stanford.edu/class/cs108/971handouts/06%20Metrowerks%20Tips.p df Hope it helps. Being able to control-double-click on a symbol and have it go to the definition even across files is my favorite feature, though control-tab to go between a .h and its associated .c is pretty cool. Also: the debugger, for all its flaws, is a lot more pleasant than gdb. Unfortunately, the windows port isn't very good. It's not totally a mac program, and not totally a windows program. Their choice to use a different system than siocons for running programs is a bit suspect, also. I've never had the IDE itself crash; pscomutil's a bit flaky, though. mike