Path: chuka.playstation.co.uk!news From: sosman@terratron.com (Steven Osman) Newsgroups: scee.yaroze.freetalk.english Subject: Re: Where do we go from here? Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:45:53 GMT Organization: PlayStation Net Yaroze (SCEE) Lines: 71 Message-ID: <38ab5135.126831333@news.playstation.co.uk> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.27.57.69 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Tony, I'm sorry, but I really have to disagree with your email entirely. Please don't take offense to what I write. First of all, the fact that the OPM stuff was even there, was an added bonus, not a requirement. Nowhere in the agreement did it mention that you stuff would be considered for anything like that. The fact that they did, was cool of them in the first place. Secondly, you do not have a professional dev. kit. You have a kit which entitles you to write games to run on your specific kit, and those of other NY members. Sony is/was under no obligation to make your disk playable to everyone else. I think that we're all dreaming pipe dreams if we think Sony will press discs for us. It costs money, it takes time, and really isn't worth their while. If you think that Sony will have anything to do with chipped systems, you've really got something else coming! Finally, regarding the "termination" of Net Yaroze, if memory serves me well, we were all entitled to only one year membership, to be renewed annualy. I don't remember paying any renewal fees myself. We really do have to come to grips with the fact that with PS2 coming out, the emphasis will shift away from the old PSX. Steven p.s. I'm bracing for the flames that this message has earned me. On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 20:39:49 +0000, Tony Ross wrote: >Could someone from SONY please explain to all of us what we can do with >our Yaroze kits (....don't even go there....). > >We really should have been given notice that the OPM stuff was coming to >an end and given us the opportunity to produce some work for >presentation to the gaming world. Rewind to July last year when I >compained that SONY were not making it worth our while and not giving us >the libraries and tools that we as casual programmers needed. So many >people gave me a hard time about that but look at how little we have >heard from them in all this time. > >I remember hearing somewhere that SEGA dev. kits could burn on special >discs which would run on an unmodified system. > >We need some way of producing CD's of our work. Other magazines may >support our work if SONY would only allow them to. > >I have heard that it is possible to burn a disk which will run on a >chipped PSX. Perhaps SONY could give Yaroze users permission to do that >legally (with royalties being due to SONY if they make any money at it). > >When the PS2 backward compatibility was announced I thought we'd be OK >but now they tell us they cannot use our stuff anymore. > >I'm sure that my non-disclosure agreement does not stop me from >complaining to Watchdog etc. about the shoddy treatment we are receiving >from SONY. Actually, a friend of mine works for the BBC and might be >able to pull a few strings to get it on air. >If SONY are refusing to continue actively running the Yaroze project >then perhaps they are preparing to stop actively supporting the >Playstation as a way of forcing the punters to buy the new machine. > >What about us all thinking about SONY's level of effort during the last >2 Years (lets compile an audit). > >Add SONY sponsored initiatives below with an approximate date