Path: chuka.playstation.co.uk!news From: "JohnT" Newsgroups: scee.yaroze.freetalk.english Subject: Re: Code W****r Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 21:56:17 -0000 Organization: PlayStation Net Yaroze (SCEE) Lines: 43 Message-ID: <6es40v$l5r22@chuka.playstation.co.uk> References: <3509BEF1.27D0@kprob.demon.co.uk> <01bd4f38$cc655dc0$79d449c2@Angela1.intelligent-group.com> <350C31A1.54F2@manc.u-net.com> <01bd507c$7472f6a0$74d449c2@Angela1.intelligent-group.com> <350D2CB7.52EA@manc.u-net.com> <6ek003$dud26@chuka.playstation.co.uk> <6ep7vs$l5r6@chuka.playstation.co.uk> <6epdls$l5r7@chuka.playstation.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: nettech.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Ira Rainey wrote in message ... >In article <6epdls$l5r7@chuka.playstation.co.uk>, "JohnT" > wrote: > >> What does that have to do with Visual C++ and CW? Nothing!! >> Besides, the people who made Windows NT are not the same people who made >> Visual C++. They just all work for the same company. Microsoft programmers >> are split into MANY teams all working on separate projects. One team may be >> better than another and the teams stick to the project they are assigned to. > >It has everything to do with it. The point that I'm trying to make is that >it isn't just Metrowerks that make buggy software, and for what CW cost it >is a damn cheap code development environment, especialy considering the >small platform base that are likely to buy it. I can't see Metrowerks >making a killing from selling copies of CW for PSX, but they do it anyway. >Look at how much something like VC++ costs, and compare the value for >money. > Show me someone who claims they can make a complex program that is 100% bug free and I will show you a liar! Comparing bugs in a vastly complex system such as NT with the bugs in a comparatively simple program is like comparing chalk and cheese. Given the size and number of bugs I would say NT has about 2-5% buggy code and CW a lot more (only judging from reports I've seen on the news groups, I have not used it enough to form a percentage!! ;) It would be more prudent to compare CW with, say, Microsoft's Developer studio. In all the time I have used Developer Studio I have not seen nearly half the amount of bugs as have been reported for CW. JohnT ------------------------------------------------ Contact me at http://wwp.mirabilis.com/9461567 Send e-mail to johnt@nettech.demon.co.uk Visit my web site at http://www.coco.net.uk/johnt ------------------------------------------------