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From: Mark Green <Mark.Green@reading.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: Generation Y
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:53:25 +0000
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Nick Ferguson wrote:
> 
> > hey thats a really sweet article. Nice bit of attitude about lurkers there
> > Mr Rutherford.
> 
> That was me actually. But seeing as you posted, I guess you won't be taking
> offence ;)

  I don't really like the anti-lurker attitude there, though.  Ever hear
of social disablement?
  Some people are just shy or hold low opinions of themselves and don't
get on well in groups of people, especially ones they don't know.  I'm
overcoming this at the moment but when I started with the Yaroze it was
very strong, and the necessity at that time to become involved with
groups of unknown people in order to obtain anything near adequate
information to program the thing was a major disincentive.  To be told
that because of such a disablement I was "never a real Yaroze user" is
quite insulting, as I did produce a few bits (but didn't circulate them
- that would mean becoming involved in the group, after all)  Besides, I
didn't think they were good enough (but then, a good 50% of Yaroze stuff
I saw fell into the category of "If I had made this I wouldn't have
shown it to anyone" (and some of that fell into the category "And I'd
deny it if anyone asked me" ;) ) ).  And if I was spending time on the
Yaroze I'd far rather spend time trying to write stuff on it than
maintaining a web site.
  Even the end of the article said that the nature of the community made
people feel uncomfortable with it.
  I *can* understand the reason behind the clamouring for NY2 coming
from people who didn't do much on the NY1 - most likely these are the
people who kept putting off the day when they'd finally write something,
and seeing the PS1 become obsolete, want to avoid the realization of
"Out of time, game over!".  
  Oh, and "will there ever be another Net Yaroze"?  There already is,
except they've blurred the amateur/professional distinction even
further. http://idn.indrema.com/.  (Although it doesn't make me too keen
that the director doesn't know how to use capital letters in chat.)