Path: chuka.playstation.co.uk!news From: "Max" Newsgroups: scee.yaroze.freetalk.english Subject: Re: South African developer looking for a Yaroze Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 13:33:05 +0100 Organization: PlayStation Net Yaroze (SCEE) Lines: 166 Message-ID: <9krbmu$3h37@www.netyaroze-europe.com> References: <9hq70s$odf4@www.netyaroze-europe.com> <9hqc3f$odf6@www.netyaroze-europe.com> <9hqda2$p4m2@www.netyaroze-europe.com> <9kn06t$qtb1@www.netyaroze-europe.com> <9kn0ts$qtb3@www.netyaroze-europe.com> <9kp379$qtb10@www.netyaroze-europe.com> <9kpm6i$qtb20@www.netyaroze-europe.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem-991.abra.dialup.pol.co.uk X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 I personally think (and hope) that the Yaroze-scene is something that will last for ages if not for as long as the people who own them get jobs that entail that they can no longer continue a fully active apperance in the community. I know that even if I get a job in a high ranking game developer studio I will still take time to support the community by producing tutorials and games to keep spurring everyone on, then the other members in turn doing the same. Therefor in the long run I can see the Yaroze as being something worth acquiring for that sole reason, if you havn't already got one. I think that the community has taken a step back from the mainstream (ish) venture it was at the beginning of the scheme and now we have the sort of hardcore hobyists that will really stick in, although now it seems to be going a tad more mainstream again with the OPM coverdisks comming back, and don't get me wrong thats a good thing! I personally (and I'm sure a lot of other people out there) would love to have a game on the coverdisk, but the way I see it is, if I don't its no biggie - I can still continue producing games and it doesn't matter if they get on the CD or not - I can tell myself I completed a game; I had the determination to do it and its not half bad (hopefully :)) As Matt pointed out to me and I quote; "the satisfaction of having a finished game you've written completely yourself is immense" I think as long as I have that feeling it won't matter one bit. Max Cookie wrote in message news:9kpm6i$qtb20@www.netyaroze-europe.com... > Hi Max, > > Yeah i can appreciate you saying that, 450 pounds is i think around 550 - > 600 US ( this equates to about $1000 or more for the machine for me, would > you spend $1000 for it? ). Unfortunately its just something i cant afford. > I looked at the machines when they were first released and drooled at the > thought of owning one, but there was no way i could cough up the money > needed for one. I remember when i worked for a video game shop someone came > in and said he bought this black machine and it had a special memory card > etc, and i thought you lucky bastard thats a yaroze, cost him about $50 US. > I guess what im thinking now is that the machine is now "obsolete", and my > local sony people said that there would be no support for me if i bought the > machine that had offered me, so that means no password or username for the > web site or newsgroups ( ok i admit not such a big deal because i can access > it using my friends account, but still id like it to be mine and all mine > :) ) > > Well anyways i'll continue to play round when i can, i dont have my mates > machine anymore, and i only have access to it on the very rare occasion now, > but i love seeing and reading what you guys are doing, reading edge and > putting some faces to the names was also very cool! > > Greg > "Max" wrote in message > news:9kp379$qtb10@www.netyaroze-europe.com... > > I'm not sure what the value of a complete kit would be now that Sony has > > stopped selling them to individuals but I'd imagine that if I were you I > > would be willing to pay up to about 400-450 pounds not sure how much that > is > > in dollars though. I would never part with my machine I love it to bits > and > > I'm glad I got one when I did so if mine were to break I'd pay a pretty > > penny for a new one if it were not able to be fixed... Hope that is useful > > in some way :) > > > > Max > > > > Cookie wrote in message > > news:9kn0ts$qtb3@www.netyaroze-europe.com... > > > Hi Guys > > > > > > I recently contacted my local sony branch, because as some of you know > the > > > only way i get to work on some yaroze stuff is to borrow a friends > > machine, > > > No i dont own it, i borrow it. Anyways sony tracked down a local yaroze > > > system, but from my understanding it was loose and possibly incomplete. > > > Asking price was Around $450 US ( depending on exchange rates ). > Needless > > > to say it was still out of my reach, as i mentioned to them that > currently > > i > > > couldnt afford more than around 150 - 200 US, and for a used yaroze > which > > > was loose and maybe incomplete, i didnt think that was too unfair > > expecting > > > to pay only around $150? > > > > > > Would that be correct, or should i have snapped at the $450 US price > they > > > were asking? Needless to say im still looking for my own machine, i > cant > > > borrow my friends machine forever, as much as i would like to, so if > > anyone > > > has a way to get me a machine, sony or a group member, please let me > know, > > > id like to officially be part of this group, with my own machine. > > > > > > > > > "Paul Holman" wrote in message > > > news:9kn06t$qtb1@www.netyaroze-europe.com... > > > > Actually, we've halved the price of "official" PS1 devkits a few > months > > > > back, and many publishers are very keen to sign up PS1 game > developers. > > > > I'll see if our own group has an interest. > > > > > > > > Incidentally, SCEE still provides Net Yaroze systems to Universities > as > > > > required. Although I know many had concerns about the legal > paperwork > > > that > > > > was the hurdle for getting the "black box", we fully intend to keep > > these > > > > servers running as long as there is interest, and don't plan to ever > > > recall > > > > the kits. > > > > > > > > Finally, we're seeing what the demand might be for Linux on PS2 - > check > > > out > > > > http://www.technology.scee.net/cgi-bin/sceeweb1/scee.pl?ps2linuxint > (its > > > not > > > > live yet) > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > "Matt Verran" wrote in message > > > > news:9hqda2$p4m2@www.netyaroze-europe.com... > > > > > > Give up a Yaroze?! Who would do a thing like that!? You'd have to > be > > > > crazy > > > > > > or something! > > > > > > > > > > There are TONS of people who own one and havn't appeared on the net > at > > > > all, > > > > > check the complete memberlist: > > > > > http://www.netyaroze-europe.com/cgi-bin/list_members.cgi > > > > > > > > > > Maybe SONY should reclaim all these machines :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >