Path: chuka.playstation.co.uk!scea!peter_alau@playstation.sony.com From: Darco Newsgroups: scee.yaroze.freetalk.english Subject: Re: what do people actually use ? Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 16:47:30 -0400 Organization: SCEA News Server Lines: 66 Message-ID: <3558B562.6D1A1DE@mail.datasys.net> References: <3558283E.3BB3@livemedia.co.uk> Reply-To: darco@bigfoot.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 223.dialup.datasys.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) The first thing I used was GCC at first, as it was what I was use to. (I learned using a text IDE, then I just went to doing everything with command-line tools and MS-EDIT) When I started to figit with codewarrior, I didn't quite understand how it worked at first. But like how everyone else says, it grows on you. The codewarrior IDE is the best development enviroment I've ever used. It has a nice blend of ease of use, as well as robustness. It has it's faults (Like not being able to load a *.SIO file (siocons batch file) when it is going to run it. You have to use batch files that run siocons), but you eventually learn work arounds. Once you get around this, you learn that codewarrior is excelent for throwing togeather code real quick - You can even make 'template' new projects that can include graphics and controler routines so that you don't have to copy and move stuff everytime you start a new project. While codewarrior is an open-ended IDE, it is not as flexible as developing using GCC, MAKE, and other command-line driven programs; as you can have the MAKE utility 'Make' VAB, VB, and VH files. It would be cool if the codewarrior IDE would let you do this, but it just doesn't. You can include batch files though that can run make. What they say though is true - it grows on you like a fungus. You just have to have the right attitude to approach it from. If you keep saying it's total crap, then you just wasted $149 dollars. (Or whatever your currency is) You payed for it, so you might as well try to learn how to use it. Charlie wrote: > > Hi, > > had my yaroze for a couple of months now (i'll put up a web-page one day > !), but only just getting time to actually play around with it. I bought > CodeWarrior when I got it thinking it was a bit of a bargain, but my > impressions are that its utter tosh - it's like they made a special > effort to make it crap - slow window redraws, non standard buttons, > menus - everyone else does it this way, but oh no we'll do it our way, > we're right, everyone else is wrong etc. etc.... > > What does uo use ? - obviosly my immediate options are to struggle on > with CW, or go down the gcc route, possibly using another IDE on top of > it. > I've got a copy of MSVC 4 lying around - can I use that - I saw some > stuff on Steve Dunns page about using Dev Studio ??? > > Anyway any real life stories welcome... > > cheers > > Charlie -- 'Darco darco@NOSPAM@bigfoot.com Please replace "@NOSPAM@" with an "@" to email me. UIN: 1454810 (You can page me at http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1454810) WWW: (sorry, page is down) Voria: http://www.datasys.net/users/stu/rquat/voria PGPKey: http://www.datasys.net/users/stu/rquat/pgpkey.txt "Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean that they are not out to get me."