Path: chuka.playstation.co.uk!news From: "Craig Graham" Newsgroups: scee.yaroze.programming.codewarrior Subject: Re: Gripes about CodeWarior Date: 29 Jun 1998 10:33:42 GMT Organization: PlayStation Net Yaroze (SCEE) Lines: 70 Message-ID: <01bda349$1f35c6c0$f30b0a0a@Angela1.intelligent-group.com> References: <3596B6DC.56DF88AD@reality-bytesX.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: d1-s42-83-telehouse.mistral.co.uk X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Kevin wrote in article <3596B6DC.56DF88AD@reality-bytesX.demon.co.uk>... > You'd think that a comapny which writes compilers, like Metrowerks would > have employed Ace programmers to write a compiler like CodeWarrior, I'm They did. The compiler itself is rather good (like, it does dead code stripping and stuff). > always in awe of people who write compilers and regard them as having to > know everything there is to know about C. but > > why can't I use C++. You can. Check out some older threads as to how.... > why can't I maximise the code windows > why can't I minimise the code windows > why is there no syntactical help It's a compiler, not a tutorial.... > why do they use non standard buttons and other graphics The environment came over from the Mac. Personally I rather like it, but thats only me.... > why is the communications from PSX to PSCommUtill soo slow You have it set to 9600 baud? > why did I have to do a 16MB download from Metrowerks site before the > program would even work. > > My copy of Visual C++ 4.0 cost less than CW, lots less and guess what, > It works. VC++ is a mass market product with more resources thrown at it than Metrowerks total turnover. CW is a limited run product. How many Yaroze copys do you think they sell? Couple of thousand at most. So, even if they made 100% profit, and put it all into developmenmt of the tool, that only pays for two decent developers for a year, with no profit at all in it for the company.... There isn't that much money in the Yaroze version - bear in mind that CodeWarrior Pro Dev costs over 2000.00 (UK) per seat. > The only reason I opted to use CodeWarrior was because I though it would > make life easier than strugling with a command line driven gnu c > program. I think I would have pulled out a lot less hair if I had used > gnu instead. It is better than the GNU tools - you just have to throw away some of your assumptions about the environment (that you got from VC++). > I'm still strugling on with CodeWarrior now but only because I don't > want to admit that I have wasted my money. > > Come on MetroWerks, fix the damned thing before I start posting messages > like this to lots of other news groups. I think that would be childish - the product is certainly not that bad. > Kevin Craig. (who's said all this before)