Path: chuka.playstation.co.uk!news From: "Graeme Evans" Newsgroups: scee.yaroze.programming.codewarrior Subject: Re: Gripes about CodeWarior Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 00:07:57 +0100 Organization: PlayStation Net Yaroze (SCEE) Lines: 38 Message-ID: <6n96nn$sub6@chuka.playstation.co.uk> References: <3596B6DC.56DF88AD@reality-bytesX.demon.co.uk> <6n8kq3$sub3@chuka.playstation.co.uk> <3597F917.498697F@reality-bytesX.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: fourny.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 >I'm prepared to accept most of the comments in Craig and Marks reply. I guess >I havn't been exposed to a great many compilers. > hey don't give in to those guys. its the emperors new clothes. i think codewarrior sucks too, and i have used a fair few compilers at work. Fortunately they were command line tools and I could call them from a makefile in visual studio. And you can with gnu too - steve dunn knows how. I think metrowerks shot themselves in the foot with that tacky windows porting tool, and using us Net Yaroze folk as unwitting paying beta testers. I know I certainly wont be buying any of their tools at work now I know how frustrating they are. As for being a superior compiler, I really doubt theres much in it. Anyway didnt i read recently that metrowerks are going to start selling GNU compilers coupled with (cough!) their front end. I guess metrowerks dont think its that bad a compiler. And the GNU compilers are getting improved all the time with egcs (anyone built snapshots for their yaroze yet?) [ aside : I'm sure there could be dosh to be made if someone could integrate gdb as a Visual Studio plug-in. There is an interface already to read out VS breakpoints. Do it as a separate program that calls gdb, you keep the rights to the debugger plug in and you can undercut metrowerks. I know for £2000 a seat I'd support GNU tools. ergh! what am i saying?] sorry rambling a bit there. So anyway your question was why cant codewarrior do all that stuff, and the answer has to be 'because theres someone at metrowerks who really really likes their pet mac porting tool'. ach these things happen. I mean if we hadnt wasted £100 we wouldnt get to bitch about it :) see ya graeme